17. How to listen - with Catalina Schveninger Chief People Officer at Datacamp

Catalina has strong ideas about people.

After a career building and running global HR teams in some of the biggest and now fastest growing companies on the planet, she knows what she's talking about: "You know you've made it as a leader when you want to be interested, not interesting" she says.

Manage output, not activity. Ask a prospective boss for references.

She thinks that teaching people to listen - really listen - then coach from that understanding is the key to management success.

She's a recruiter and a salesperson at heart - and that's a big part of what makes her such a good people manager.

Find Catalina here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schveninger/

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